Re: [messengers] The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger

Date: 14 Apr 2010 23:47:02 +0200
From: Michael Dodd <mikeydodds@xxxxxxxxx>


I like the hipster tricksters that make their own fake spoke cards.

Its soo cute.

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Katie Styer <katiostyler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The bottom line is that we have fun, a lot. The crowd can see it on our
> faces in our determination, steely grit and shit-eating smiles. How could
> you not want a part of that? But even if you aren't legitimate, you can
> still ride around with the big boys and girls and pretend. I say, stay out
> of my way, have your fun and don't let the bus run you over or the tracks
> eat your wheel-- if you wanna hang out in the financials.
>
> And let's get real. These kids who can afford the blaingin bikes don't want
> to really be messengers and lose their graphic design paychecks and have to
> start digging through the used parts bins at the local community bike
> workshop to fix their trixie. In my city, at the least, unless you work for
> a legal company or the one or two legit all-city coverage companies, you
> don't earn shit, really.
>
> Thus the only real negative impact the "just for fun" riders have on the
> messenger community is two fold: sullying a badass rep that some worked
> really hard to solidify and driving up prices of our "work tools." I'll
> give
> y'all that but tricks? Non-issue to me. Leave them their tricks, I've got a
> toasty rush to put the jam on.
>
> SF Rookie
> -Katie
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Simon McKenzie <mckfrenzy@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Ah but Yogi, You were always the coolest, even before I knew you (which
> > makes u all the cooler by association).
> >
> > Seriously, I've read some crap in my time, but this shit is right up
> there.
> >
> > Joe can u put a filter on this shit :)
> >
> > Ride safe (NO TRICKS PLS)
> >
> > Shifty
> >
> > On 14/04/2010, at 12:07 PM, yogi at sydbma.org wrote:
> >
> >  Prodj on
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Julian 'Yogi' Somosi
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx
> ]
> >> On
> >> Behalf Of Kenton Hoppas
> >> Sent: 14 April 2010 08:40
> >> To: dee shaine
> >> Cc: messengers@xxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: Re: [messengers] The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger
> >>
> >> I have no idea what that article was about? I thought it was about the
> >> decline of messengers. Instead it just told us what we already knew.
> >>  There
> >> are hipsters doing tricks. Cool.
> >>
> >> I'll tell you what, I'm still convinced that the bike is the most
> >> economical
> >> and efficient way to transport packages of just about every size and
> shape
> >> quickly through congested downtowns.  So drivers, keep driving so we can
> >> keep riding.
> >>
> >> Word, Aloha
> >>
> >> Kenton
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:18 PM, dee shaine <dcfixie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>  what bull shit, messengers are ok with working,racing on weekends,and
> not
> >>> caring what anyone thinks ,and drinking,its more a social thing
> >>> people.and
> >>> every year we have out nacccs cmwc and various events that will always
> >>>
> >> keep
> >>
> >>> going. i mean 130 plus people for monstertrack,and reloads april fools
> >>>
> >> race
> >>
> >>> will be packed and guatamala is coming up and atlanta is coming
> >>>
> >> up........we
> >>
> >>> will always be here,and we don't care whats the in thing
> >>> and add the ! to that
> >>> --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> From: Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Subject: [messengers] The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger
> >>> To: "Messenger list" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 3:15 PM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger
> >>> The immortal class is looking a little more mortal these days.
> >>> New York Times (City Room Blog), April 13, 2010
> >>>
> >>> With fewer packages to deliver and an increasing number of urban riders
> >>> draping themselves with shoulder bags and cutting through traffic on
> >>> track
> >>> bikes, some say the cachet of being a bicycle messenger is wearing off
> >>> for
> >>>
> >> a
> >>
> >>> new generation of street riders. It certainly is not the same as it was
> >>> in
> >>> 2001, when Travis Culley could write in his ode to the urban cowboy,
> "The
> >>> Immortal Class: Bike Messengers and the Cult of Human Power," that:
> >>>
> >>> I am sometimes seen as a social misfit, a freeloader, a junkie, but I
> am
> >>> also envied for the color, the vigor, the picture of America I can find
> >>> while they push their way through the weekday treadmill routine.
> >>>
> >>> Joseph Lanza, a messenger of six years who goes by the street name Joey
> >>> Krillz, said that he had recently noticed a shift in attitude among
> some
> >>>
> >> of
> >>
> >>> the younger riders, especially those who prefer brakeless fixed-gear
> >>>
> >> bikes.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "Previously, in the scene, if you were a courier, you were it," Mr.
> >>>
> >> Krillz,
> >>
> >>> 29, said. "But now it's like, no one cares if you're a messenger
> anymore.
> >>> It's all about the tricks."
> >>>
> >>> As fixed-gear bicycles have become de rigueur for young urban cyclists
> in
> >>> cities around the world, a new type of riding has grown up in the past
> >>> two
> >>> years, riders say. With so many now braving traffic in Midtown, the
> >>>
> >> radical
> >>
> >>> aspect of just being in the street has disappeared and a new style is
> >>> emerging, one that appears more tethered to skateboarding and BMX bikes
> >>>
> >> than
> >>
> >>> to messengering.
> >>>
> >>> Some call it "700cmx" in reference to the rim size favored by those who
> >>> ride this way. For most, it is known as fixed freestyle.
> >>>
> >>> But Edward Laforte, one of the few sponsored fixed-freestyle riders,
> who
> >>> goes by Ed Wonka, has an even more complicated name for it. He said he
> >>> preferred to connect this style of riding - in which bar spins,
> twisting
> >>> bunny hops and riding backward, or "fakie," are some of the primary
> >>> tricks
> >>>
> >> -
> >>
> >>> to off-road, and he calls what he does "fixed mountain bike street," he
> >>> said.
> >>>
> >>> As a sponsored rider, Mr. Wonka, 20, has traveled to various world
> >>> cities,
> >>> where he has seen the scene spreading. "I see people popping up all
> over
> >>>
> >> the
> >>
> >>> place doing tricks," Mr. Wonka said. "Everyone has a trick bike in
> >>> Japan."
> >>>
> >>> In what is perhaps an indication of how new it all is, Mr. Wonka's
> >>> sponsorship extends only to free equipment - he is currently working as
> a
> >>> real estate broker to pay the bills.
> >>>
> >>> In fact, there are only a handful of riders in New York who are serious
> >>> about these tricks, said John Watson, known as Prolly, who writes an
> >>> influential fixed-gear blog, Prolly Is Not Probably. Those who do ride
> >>>
> >> this
> >>
> >>> way can often be found at the Brooklyn Banks (before they were closed
> for
> >>> work on the Brooklyn Bridge) or on Thursday nights under the
> >>>
> >> Brooklyn-Queens
> >>
> >>> Expressway in Williamsburg, practicing their tricks for hours in
> >>> so-called
> >>> "peel sessions."
> >>>
> >>> The style, developed in New York and Philadelphia, has been "blowing
> up"
> >>>
> >> on
> >>
> >>> the West Coast, Mr. Watson said. "It was like that in skateboarding,
> >>> too,"
> >>> he said. "The East Coast starts out with the gritty street riding, but
> >>>
> >> then
> >>
> >>> the West takes it over."
> >>>
> >>> Despite the small number of serious fixed freestyle riders in the city,
> >>> their influence on bike fashion has been pronounced. It is spread via a
> >>> number of online sources, from Mr. Watson's blog to others like Locked
> >>>
> >> Cog,
> >>
> >>> zlog and Trick Track.
> >>>
> >>> If messenger style is practical and grimy - an all-weather,
> >>> long-hours-in-the-saddle kind of bohemian aesthetic - fixed freestyle
> >>> fashion owes a debt to hip-hop and skateboarding. Flat-brimmed fitted
> >>> hats
> >>> are common, as are small designer T-shirts.
> >>>
> >>> And the bikes are changing, too, becoming smaller, heavier and more
> >>> sluggish to ride but better for flying down stairs or grinding on
> ledges.
> >>>
> >>> "Two or three years ago, people just wanted to ride and have their
> >>> messenger bag," Mr. Wonka said. "Now you see kids coming out with their
> >>>
> >> new
> >>
> >>> trick frame and their new trick setup."
> >>>
> >>> Luckily for messengers like Mr. Krillz, the sturdier, slower trick
> frames
> >>> appealed from the start. "I'm just an old skateboarder, so maybe I
> looked
> >>>
> >> at
> >>
> >>> riding a track bike in the city a little bit differently," he said.
> "You
> >>> just start jumping off curb and, you know, it makes the day-to-day of
> >>> delivering packages a little more interesting. Instead of just A to B,
> I
> >>>
> >> can
> >>
> >>> throw a third dimension in there. Maybe not get there as fast, but
> having
> >>> just as much fun."
> >>>
> >>> And, he added, there is room for profit. Mr. Krillz and Mr. Wonka
> >>> recently
> >>> started a T-shirt company that they hope will appeal to both groups of
> >>> riders. "It's a T-shirt," Mr. Krillz said matter-of-factly. "A T-shirt
> >>>
> >> can't
> >>
> >>> be specific to one type of bicycle."
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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