Re: [messengers] The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger

Date: 15 Apr 2010 00:17:48 +0200
From: Marli Epp <marmax13@xxxxxxxxxxx>


*sarcasm*

> From: marmax13@xxxxxxxxxxx
> To: mikeydodds@xxxxxxxxx; katiostyler@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:16:07 -0400
> CC: messengers@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [messengers] The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger
> 
> 
> wait, can i get out of this cult? anyone got a job? *
> 
> > Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:46:43 +1000
> > From: mikeydodds@xxxxxxxxx
> > To: katiostyler@xxxxxxxxx
> > CC: messengers@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [messengers] The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger
> > 
> > I like the hipster tricksters that make their own fake spoke cards.
> > 
> > Its soo cute.
> > 
> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:23 PM, Katie Styer <katiostyler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > 
> > > The bottom line is that we have fun, a lot. The crowd can see it on our
> > > faces in our determination, steely grit and shit-eating smiles. How could
> > > you not want a part of that? But even if you aren't legitimate, you can
> > > still ride around with the big boys and girls and pretend. I say, stay out
> > > of my way, have your fun and don't let the bus run you over or the tracks
> > > eat your wheel-- if you wanna hang out in the financials.
> > >
> > > And let's get real. These kids who can afford the blaingin bikes don't want
> > > to really be messengers and lose their graphic design paychecks and have to
> > > start digging through the used parts bins at the local community bike
> > > workshop to fix their trixie. In my city, at the least, unless you work for
> > > a legal company or the one or two legit all-city coverage companies, you
> > > don't earn shit, really.
> > >
> > > Thus the only real negative impact the "just for fun" riders have on the
> > > messenger community is two fold: sullying a badass rep that some worked
> > > really hard to solidify and driving up prices of our "work tools." I'll
> > > give
> > > y'all that but tricks? Non-issue to me. Leave them their tricks, I've got a
> > > toasty rush to put the jam on.
> > >
> > > SF Rookie
> > > -Katie
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:28 AM, Simon McKenzie <mckfrenzy@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ah but Yogi, You were always the coolest, even before I knew you (which
> > > > makes u all the cooler by association).
> > > >
> > > > Seriously, I've read some crap in my time, but this shit is right up
> > > there.
> > > >
> > > > Joe can u put a filter on this shit :)
> > > >
> > > > Ride safe (NO TRICKS PLS)
> > > >
> > > > Shifty
> > > >
> > > > On 14/04/2010, at 12:07 PM, yogi at sydbma.org wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  Prodj on
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >>
> > > >> Julian 'Yogi' Somosi
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx
> > > ]
> > > >> On
> > > >> Behalf Of Kenton Hoppas
> > > >> Sent: 14 April 2010 08:40
> > > >> To: dee shaine
> > > >> Cc: messengers@xxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: Re: [messengers] The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger
> > > >>
> > > >> I have no idea what that article was about? I thought it was about the
> > > >> decline of messengers. Instead it just told us what we already knew.
> > > >>  There
> > > >> are hipsters doing tricks. Cool.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'll tell you what, I'm still convinced that the bike is the most
> > > >> economical
> > > >> and efficient way to transport packages of just about every size and
> > > shape
> > > >> quickly through congested downtowns.  So drivers, keep driving so we can
> > > >> keep riding.
> > > >>
> > > >> Word, Aloha
> > > >>
> > > >> Kenton
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 3:18 PM, dee shaine <dcfixie@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  what bull shit, messengers are ok with working,racing on weekends,and
> > > not
> > > >>> caring what anyone thinks ,and drinking,its more a social thing
> > > >>> people.and
> > > >>> every year we have out nacccs cmwc and various events that will always
> > > >>>
> > > >> keep
> > > >>
> > > >>> going. i mean 130 plus people for monstertrack,and reloads april fools
> > > >>>
> > > >> race
> > > >>
> > > >>> will be packed and guatamala is coming up and atlanta is coming
> > > >>>
> > > >> up........we
> > > >>
> > > >>> will always be here,and we don't care whats the in thing
> > > >>> and add the ! to that
> > > >>> --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> From: Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>> Subject: [messengers] The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger
> > > >>> To: "Messenger list" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > >>> Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 3:15 PM
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The Slowly Fading Cult of the Messenger
> > > >>> The immortal class is looking a little more mortal these days.
> > > >>> New York Times (City Room Blog), April 13, 2010
> > > >>>
> > > >>> With fewer packages to deliver and an increasing number of urban riders
> > > >>> draping themselves with shoulder bags and cutting through traffic on
> > > >>> track
> > > >>> bikes, some say the cachet of being a bicycle messenger is wearing off
> > > >>> for
> > > >>>
> > > >> a
> > > >>
> > > >>> new generation of street riders. It certainly is not the same as it was
> > > >>> in
> > > >>> 2001, when Travis Culley could write in his ode to the urban cowboy,
> > > "The
> > > >>> Immortal Class: Bike Messengers and the Cult of Human Power," that:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I am sometimes seen as a social misfit, a freeloader, a junkie, but I
> > > am
> > > >>> also envied for the color, the vigor, the picture of America I can find
> > > >>> while they push their way through the weekday treadmill routine.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Joseph Lanza, a messenger of six years who goes by the street name Joey
> > > >>> Krillz, said that he had recently noticed a shift in attitude among
> > > some
> > > >>>
> > > >> of
> > > >>
> > > >>> the younger riders, especially those who prefer brakeless fixed-gear
> > > >>>
> > > >> bikes.
> > > >>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Previously, in the scene, if you were a courier, you were it," Mr.
> > > >>>
> > > >> Krillz,
> > > >>
> > > >>> 29, said. "But now it's like, no one cares if you're a messenger
> > > anymore.
> > > >>> It's all about the tricks."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As fixed-gear bicycles have become de rigueur for young urban cyclists
> > > in
> > > >>> cities around the world, a new type of riding has grown up in the past
> > > >>> two
> > > >>> years, riders say. With so many now braving traffic in Midtown, the
> > > >>>
> > > >> radical
> > > >>
> > > >>> aspect of just being in the street has disappeared and a new style is
> > > >>> emerging, one that appears more tethered to skateboarding and BMX bikes
> > > >>>
> > > >> than
> > > >>
> > > >>> to messengering.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Some call it "700cmx" in reference to the rim size favored by those who
> > > >>> ride this way. For most, it is known as fixed freestyle.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But Edward Laforte, one of the few sponsored fixed-freestyle riders,
> > > who
> > > >>> goes by Ed Wonka, has an even more complicated name for it. He said he
> > > >>> preferred to connect this style of riding - in which bar spins,
> > > twisting
> > > >>> bunny hops and riding backward, or "fakie," are some of the primary
> > > >>> tricks
> > > >>>
> > > >> -
> > > >>
> > > >>> to off-road, and he calls what he does "fixed mountain bike street," he
> > > >>> said.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> As a sponsored rider, Mr. Wonka, 20, has traveled to various world
> > > >>> cities,
> > > >>> where he has seen the scene spreading. "I see people popping up all
> > > over
> > > >>>
> > > >> the
> > > >>
> > > >>> place doing tricks," Mr. Wonka said. "Everyone has a trick bike in
> > > >>> Japan."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In what is perhaps an indication of how new it all is, Mr. Wonka's
> > > >>> sponsorship extends only to free equipment - he is currently working as
> > > a
> > > >>> real estate broker to pay the bills.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In fact, there are only a handful of riders in New York who are serious
> > > >>> about these tricks, said John Watson, known as Prolly, who writes an
> > > >>> influential fixed-gear blog, Prolly Is Not Probably. Those who do ride
> > > >>>
> > > >> this
> > > >>
> > > >>> way can often be found at the Brooklyn Banks (before they were closed
> > > for
> > > >>> work on the Brooklyn Bridge) or on Thursday nights under the
> > > >>>
> > > >> Brooklyn-Queens
> > > >>
> > > >>> Expressway in Williamsburg, practicing their tricks for hours in
> > > >>> so-called
> > > >>> "peel sessions."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The style, developed in New York and Philadelphia, has been "blowing
> > > up"
> > > >>>
> > > >> on
> > > >>
> > > >>> the West Coast, Mr. Watson said. "It was like that in skateboarding,
> > > >>> too,"
> > > >>> he said. "The East Coast starts out with the gritty street riding, but
> > > >>>
> > > >> then
> > > >>
> > > >>> the West takes it over."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Despite the small number of serious fixed freestyle riders in the city,
> > > >>> their influence on bike fashion has been pronounced. It is spread via a
> > > >>> number of online sources, from Mr. Watson's blog to others like Locked
> > > >>>
> > > >> Cog,
> > > >>
> > > >>> zlog and Trick Track.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If messenger style is practical and grimy - an all-weather,
> > > >>> long-hours-in-the-saddle kind of bohemian aesthetic - fixed freestyle
> > > >>> fashion owes a debt to hip-hop and skateboarding. Flat-brimmed fitted
> > > >>> hats
> > > >>> are common, as are small designer T-shirts.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> And the bikes are changing, too, becoming smaller, heavier and more
> > > >>> sluggish to ride but better for flying down stairs or grinding on
> > > ledges.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Two or three years ago, people just wanted to ride and have their
> > > >>> messenger bag," Mr. Wonka said. "Now you see kids coming out with their
> > > >>>
> > > >> new
> > > >>
> > > >>> trick frame and their new trick setup."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Luckily for messengers like Mr. Krillz, the sturdier, slower trick
> > > frames
> > > >>> appealed from the start. "I'm just an old skateboarder, so maybe I
> > > looked
> > > >>>
> > > >> at
> > > >>
> > > >>> riding a track bike in the city a little bit differently," he said.
> > > "You
> > > >>> just start jumping off curb and, you know, it makes the day-to-day of
> > > >>> delivering packages a little more interesting. Instead of just A to B,
> > > I
> > > >>>
> > > >> can
> > > >>
> > > >>> throw a third dimension in there. Maybe not get there as fast, but
> > > having
> > > >>> just as much fun."
> > > >>>
> > > >>> And, he added, there is room for profit. Mr. Krillz and Mr. Wonka
> > > >>> recently
> > > >>> started a T-shirt company that they hope will appeal to both groups of
> > > >>> riders. "It's a T-shirt," Mr. Krillz said matter-of-factly. "A T-shirt
> > > >>>
> > > >> can't
> > > >>
> > > >>> be specific to one type of bicycle."
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Kenton Hoppas
> > > >> www.sweetcornstudio.com
> > > >> 619-778-3732
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