Date: 3 Jan 2011 20:19:32 +0100
From: "andy duncan" <mcbstrd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Well spoken Sir! .... and a very happy new year to your and yours in the emerald isle love and peace, Andy --- dublinmessenger@xxxxxxxxx wrote: From: "Mr. White" <dublinmessenger@xxxxxxxxx> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Cc: "Messenger IFBMA.org" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [messengers] CMWC Guatemala debt. Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 19:37:13 +0000 I am shocked... Wasn't in Guatemala but registered and paid to contribute as I will every year even though I am no longer a working messenger. This is the 2nd year in a row the CMWC has come in massively over budget. This, in my opinion, is not acceptable. Between Tokyo and Guatemala some of the 1st world's poorest workers have taken unpaid time off and paid over $1000 in flights alone to make it to these championships only to be told months later to cough up some more to facilitate debt. I find this offensive. Dublin '07 had its problems, but at least we didn't lie to people about what it was going to cost. We didn't set our stall out too high and promise what we couldn't deliver, or deliver what we couldn't afford and then come scrounging afterwards. So for all the benefit for the Guatemalan communities what this years CMWC has amounted to is $28,500 of unpaid workers? Way to bolster the community... Organisers of future CMC's need to look closely at what they're doing and what they plan to offer. Messengers are very good at looking after themselves and making their own fun, they don't need giant merry go rounds to put smiles on their faces. We made €14,000 in registrations... our CMWC cost us €14,000. Nobody made any money, nobody lost any money. Can we please reign this fucking thing in and get back to what the fuck it's supposed to be about in this first place? Happy New Year everyone. Graham. ps. I wish Nadir etc. all the best in settling this debt. It was an ambitious plan and I was proud to see it go ahead. But the cost has obviously been too great. On 31 December 2010 18:26, nadir olivet <wooracer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Happy New Year To all the Messengers of the world. > Thank you!!! Too you all that made the Guatemalan CMWC possible this > year. We were left with a massive debt after the CMWC because of lack of > racers and sponsorship. The debt total was $28,500usd after the CMWC. Andy > and I wanted to be transparent with everything that we were doing so here is > our debt total. I am embarrassed to ask for help but when you have hit your > financial limit. Then is time to push your pride aside and ask for help. I > have borrowed from my family and maxed my credit cards totaling $25,000 to > keep my promise to make the CMWC possible because you have to keep your > word. To all that would like to make a donation you can send it to > registration@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . The Total that we have collected is > $40usd. Thank you to Buffalo Bill and Maka. > > Nadir OLivet > _______________________________________________ > Messengers mailing list > Messengers@xxxxxxxxx > http://ifbma.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/messengers > _______________________________________________ Messengers mailing list Messengers@xxxxxxxxx http://ifbma.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/messengers _____________________________________________________________ email services provided by trackbike.com, your source for alleycat and trackbike photos. submissions welcome.