Re: [messengers] CMWC Guatemala debt.

Date: 6 Jan 2011 17:30:14 +0100
From: "joschz@xxxxxxxxx" <joschz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

i'm up for organizing a race in mexico city to help with the debt

On Jan 6, 2011, at 8:40 AM, eoin mcnulty-goodwin wrote:

i'd like to applaud nadir in his dogged determination to put on a
spectacular event and his devotion to bring the event to his
home...respect........but nadir, and andy, you IS crazy taking on that kinda debt. I also think this is a good place for people who want to help to offer ideas on how money can be raised. I don't think raising registration for 2011 is a good idea, i don't think it's fair to people who were not in pana, but maybe the boys in warsaw could add it to the registration page as an optional donation, that could work. A worldwide race i think is a good idea, people who were involved in guatemala or wish to help can organise in their
city and raise whatever they can.......
Oh and i think Jos raises a good point too, maybe some kind of breakdown as to how this money was spent would encourage others who were not there to get
involved in fund-raising.......
Peace y'all,

P.S>: Happy New Year Andy D, big love for the new one ;)
Matteo, sorry we didn't hook-up brotha, maybe we'll get that pint
in warsaw!

On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Jos van Veldhoven <
jos_van_veldhoven@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In the spirit of transparency, is it possible to get a (rough) breakdown of
the debt / money spent?

And if we would like to make a donation where can we do it, via Paypal

Regards, Jos van Veldhoven

Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2011 14:29:04 +0100
From: matteo.castronuovo@xxxxxxxxx
To: drazek@xxxxxxxxxxx
CC: messengers@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [messengers] CMWC Guatemala debt.

I'm really shocked too...
i thing to add extra 10euro to registration fee for CMWC in 2011 is a
we should do it!!
It's possible to organize a worldwide race like a "global gutz" just for
fund the money?

2011/1/6 drazek//TIMEBOMB <drazek@xxxxxxxxxxx>

I'm really shocked...

Im thinking in this way:
How many times I was on a party, organized by two or more guys, on
they spend $25000???
In my live???
It is really crazy idea to organize CMWC, where whole community is
dancing, drinking, but only two guys are paying for check...

We HAVE to decide what to do.
We cant leave them without help.

Maybe we should add extra 10euro to registration fee for CMWC in
(it's just my idea...)

On Dec 31, 2010, at 7:26 PM, nadir olivet wrote:

Happy New Year To all the Messengers of the world.
Thank you!!! Too you all that made the Guatemalan CMWC possible
year. We were left with a massive debt after the CMWC because of lack
racers and sponsorship. The debt total was $28,500usd after the CMWC.
and I wanted to be transparent with everything that we were doing so
here is
our debt total. I am embarrassed to ask for help but when you have
hit your
financial limit. Then is time to push your pride aside and ask for
help. I
have borrowed from my family and maxed my credit cards totaling
$25,000 to
keep my promise to make the CMWC possible because you have to keep
word. To all that would like to make a donation you can send it
registration@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . The Total that we have collected is
$40usd. Thank you to Buffalo Bill and Maka.

Nadir OLivet
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