Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment

Date: 29 Mar 2011 17:10:27 +0200
From: Max Biaggi <sunaltahusky@xxxxxxxxx>

Those new security measures are gonna cost way more than they will ever collect in fees for couriers.  It is the economomics of extinction.  Throw more paper money on the fire, I am cold.

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On 29-Mar-11, at 7:35 AM, cadmus@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

Great points.

Quoting Shawn bega Blumenfeld <shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx>:

they may have specific reason that theyre not releasing to believe it
is in fact a courier.

if i were the tomba or whatever is current, i would stay away from the
argument " you dont know its a courier, dont come down on us" because
it might be one or turn out to be one.

i would take the stance that the common hard working career toronto
bike messengers have nothing to do with these threats, and hope the
culprit is caught whether or not a messenger. further, i would suggest
to  individual messengers that they should be courteous when dealing
with new security measures that are sure to be put in place, and work
as a group to lesson them instead of as loud individuals in the heat
of the rush being asked to use a loading dock for the first time.
charge waiting time to the client.

seperately and at the same time i would say publically that "we hope
the political process will allow comment from career messengers before
any licensing or plate law is implemented, and that any such
inplementation will be done for the benefit of the industry, the
messengers, and people of toronto, not as a gut reaction to a
dwindling budget". when arguing specifically against plate laws, i
would argue the responsibility of the courier companies, the low
numbers of bikers meaning very little income if any vs the redtape
necessary to impletment it, the transient nature of the work force,
and that  hard working career bike messengers stay on the streets by
riding safely.

Shawn "bega" Blumenfeld
email: shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx
mobile phone/text: (+1) 202-345-1177
skype: shawn.bega

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Exactly! Nobody takes Mammoliti seriously about anything.

But why suspect a courier? A couple days before he proposed turning a wonderful family community on the island into a red light area filled with brothels.

Add this to the list of "suspected couriers."

--- On Tue, 3/29/11, marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx <marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx <marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment
To: "Simon McKenzie" <simonmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx, "Joe Hendry" <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Messenger list" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 9:11 AM

This is very distressing. I'm skeptical that a "bike courier" threatened him at all. Political leverage?
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Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:50:47
To: Joe Hendry<messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment

If anyone can get in there it's a courier surely
Just sayin :)

On 29/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, Joe Hendry wrote:

Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment


Sun, March 29, 2011

Toronto Police are probing a threat made over the telephone
against outspoken Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti by a suspected bike
courier who
allegedly vowed to “go after” the politician.

Mammoliti last week suggested that bicycle couriers should
pay licensing fees to help the city raise cash.

The councillor for York West (Ward 7) said he’s taking the
threat seriously and will be listening to the advice of police. He
said it was
his worst threat in 20-years of public service.

City Hall insiders said two threats were made against
Mammoliti by a man last Saturday. It is suspected the threats were
made by a
courier angry over Mammoliti’s call for an extra fee.

He said some of his colleagues want increased security at
City Hall due to major funding shortfall issues that have to be
dealt with by
councillors that can include cutting city jobs and programs.

The threat comes as a confidential report on security at
City Hall and its civic centres is presented to a city’s government
committee on Tuesday.

“I think things may get worst because we have to find ways
to cut almost $800 million from the budget,” Mammoliti said. “There
will be
some tough decisions facing this administration in the next year.”

Committee chairman Paul Ainslie said the confidential report
being presented on Tuesday looks at possible security refinements at
City Hall.

“We will be reviewing security and looking at ways of making
enhancements,” Ainslie said. “We already have provisions in place
for the
second floor of City Hall and our civic centres.”

He said councillors have panic buttons hidden in their desks
which they can push to obtain help from security. Guests also have
to sign a
visitor’s book before they can see a councillor.

Councillor Doug Holyday said he would like to see security
tweaked without residents being affected.

“I am in favour of making sure that people can’t come in and
just wander around,” Holyday said. “There has been more protests and
with this administration.”

Councillor Michael Thompson said he wants added security,
but added: “What we don’t want is Fortress
City Hall.”

He said there are some people who are upset with current
policies and may want to take it out on council members.

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