Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment

Date: 30 Mar 2011 00:28:28 +0200
From: Nicholas Kovats <nkovats@xxxxxxxxx>


 Couriers. Wake up! This is classic directed mis-information reported
by one news outlet unsubstaniated by any other source.

Peace.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-03-29, at 12:21 PM, Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> Well done Shawn.
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Shawn bega Blumenfeld <shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: Shawn bega Blumenfeld <shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment
> To: "messengers" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:21 AM
>
> they may have specific reason that theyre not releasing to believe it
> is in fact a courier.
>
> if i were the tomba or whatever is current, i would stay away from the
> argument " you dont know its a courier, dont come down on us" because
> it might be one or turn out to be one.
>
> i would take the stance that the common hard working career toronto
> bike messengers have nothing to do with these threats, and hope the
> culprit is caught whether or not a messenger. further, i would suggest
> to  individual messengers that they should be courteous when dealing
> with new security measures that are sure to be put in place, and work
> as a group to lesson them instead of as loud individuals in the heat
> of the rush being asked to use a loading dock for the first time.
> charge waiting time to the client.
>
> seperately and at the same time i would say publically that "we hope
> the political process will allow comment from career messengers before
> any licensing or plate law is implemented, and that any such
> inplementation will be done for the benefit of the industry, the
> messengers, and people of toronto, not as a gut reaction to a
> dwindling budget". when arguing specifically against plate laws, i
> would argue the responsibility of the courier companies, the low
> numbers of bikers meaning very little income if any vs the redtape
> necessary to impletment it, the transient nature of the work force,
> and that  hard working career bike messengers stay on the streets by
> riding safely.
>
>
> --
> Shawn "bega" Blumenfeld
> web: http://www.dcbikeracing.com
> email: shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx
> mobile phone/text: (+1) 202-345-1177
> skype: shawn.bega
> --
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Exactly! Nobody takes Mammoliti seriously about anything.
>>
>> But why suspect a courier? A couple days before he proposed turning a wonderful family community on the island into a red light area filled with brothels.
>>
>> Add this to the list of "suspected couriers."
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 3/29/11, marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx <marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx <marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment
>> To: "Simon McKenzie" <simonmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx, "Joe Hendry" <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: "Messenger list" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 9:11 AM
>>
>>
>> This is very distressing. I'm skeptical that a "bike courier" threatened him at all. Political leverage?
>> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Simon McKenzie <simonmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sender: messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx
>> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:50:47
>> To: Joe Hendry<messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: Messenger list<messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment
>>
>> If anyone can get in there it's a courier surely
>> Just sayin :)
>>
>>
>> On 29/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, Joe Hendry wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> By TOM GODFREY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Toronto
>>> Sun, March 29, 2011
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Toronto Police are probing a threat made over the telephone
>>> against outspoken Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti by a suspected bike
>>> courier who
>>> allegedly vowed to “go after” the politician.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mammoliti last week suggested that bicycle couriers should
>>> pay licensing fees to help the city raise cash.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The councillor for York West (Ward 7) said he’s taking the
>>> threat seriously and will be listening to the advice of police. He
>>> said it was
>>> his worst threat in 20-years of public service.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> City Hall insiders said two threats were made against
>>> Mammoliti by a man last Saturday. It is suspected the threats were
>>> made by a
>>> courier angry over Mammoliti’s call for an extra fee.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He said some of his colleagues want increased security at
>>> City Hall due to major funding shortfall issues that have to be
>>> dealt with by
>>> councillors that can include cutting city jobs and programs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The threat comes as a confidential report on security at
>>> City Hall and its civic centres is presented to a city’s government
>>> management
>>> committee on Tuesday.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “I think things may get worst because we have to find ways
>>> to cut almost $800 million from the budget,” Mammoliti said. “There
>>> will be
>>> some tough decisions facing this administration in the next year.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Committee chairman Paul Ainslie said the confidential report
>>> being presented on Tuesday looks at possible security refinements at
>>> City Hall.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “We will be reviewing security and looking at ways of making
>>> enhancements,” Ainslie said. “We already have provisions in place
>>> for the
>>> second floor of City Hall and our civic centres.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He said councillors have panic buttons hidden in their desks
>>> which they can push to obtain help from security. Guests also have
>>> to sign a
>>> visitor’s book before they can see a councillor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Councillor Doug Holyday said he would like to see security
>>> tweaked without residents being affected.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> “I am in favour of making sure that people can’t come in and
>>> just wander around,” Holyday said. “There has been more protests and
>>> activists
>>> with this administration.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Councillor Michael Thompson said he wants added security,
>>> but added: “What we don’t want is Fortress
>>> City Hall.”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He said there are some people who are upset with current
>>> policies and may want to take it out on council members.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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