[messengers] Car Courier arrested re: Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment

Date: 30 Mar 2011 15:02:33 +0200
From: Nicholas Kovats <nkovats@xxxxxxxxx>

National Post has confirmed that a Car Couier has been arrested.

Bicycle messengers PR needs to compose a letter to the NP editor on ...once
again false assumptions.


Elspeth Lodge, National Post
Wednesday, Mar. 30, 2011

A Toronto man has been arrested and charged after a city councillor received
menacing threats on Saturday.

The call came after Giorgio Mammoliti of Ward 7 suggested that bicycle
couriers pay licensing fees to help raise money for the city.

The early suspicion was that the caller was a bicycle courier, but the man
who allegedly said he would "go after" Mr. Mammoliti was a car courier.

Police say they arrested the suspect, 50-year-old Ian Bruce Thornton, after
he turned himself in.

Mr. Mammoliti could not comment on the situation, due to the ongoing
investigation, but he did confirm that he had been the subject of a
threatening call. The accused will appear in court on May 5.

Councillor Mammoliti said he believes a bicycle tax makes sense as a way to
make money from those who use roads and sidewalks aggressively.


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On 2011-03-29, at 6:28 PM, Nicholas Kovats <nkovats@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Couriers. Wake up! This is classic directed mis-information reported
by one news outlet unsubstaniated by any other source.


Sent from my iPhone

On 2011-03-29, at 12:21 PM, Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well done Shawn.

--- On Tue, 3/29/11, Shawn bega Blumenfeld <shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Shawn bega Blumenfeld <shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment

To: "messengers" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>

Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:21 AM

they may have specific reason that theyre not releasing to believe it

is in fact a courier.

if i were the tomba or whatever is current, i would stay away from the

argument " you dont know its a courier, dont come down on us" because

it might be one or turn out to be one.

i would take the stance that the common hard working career toronto

bike messengers have nothing to do with these threats, and hope the

culprit is caught whether or not a messenger. further, i would suggest

to  individual messengers that they should be courteous when dealing

with new security measures that are sure to be put in place, and work

as a group to lesson them instead of as loud individuals in the heat

of the rush being asked to use a loading dock for the first time.

charge waiting time to the client.

seperately and at the same time i would say publically that "we hope

the political process will allow comment from career messengers before

any licensing or plate law is implemented, and that any such

inplementation will be done for the benefit of the industry, the

messengers, and people of toronto, not as a gut reaction to a

dwindling budget". when arguing specifically against plate laws, i

would argue the responsibility of the courier companies, the low

numbers of bikers meaning very little income if any vs the redtape

necessary to impletment it, the transient nature of the work force,

and that  hard working career bike messengers stay on the streets by

riding safely.


Shawn "bega" Blumenfeld

web: http://www.dcbikeracing.com

email: shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx

mobile phone/text: (+1) 202-345-1177

skype: shawn.bega


On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Exactly! Nobody takes Mammoliti seriously about anything.

But why suspect a courier? A couple days before he proposed turning a
wonderful family community on the island into a red light area filled with

Add this to the list of "suspected couriers."

--- On Tue, 3/29/11, marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx <marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx>

From: marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx <marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment

To: "Simon McKenzie" <simonmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx, "Joe Hendry" <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>

Cc: "Messenger list" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>

Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 9:11 AM

This is very distressing. I'm skeptical that a "bike courier" threatened him
at all. Political leverage?

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-----Original Message-----

From: Simon McKenzie <simonmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Sender: messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx

Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:50:47

To: Joe Hendry<messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>

Cc: Messenger list<messengers@xxxxxxxxx>

Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment

If anyone can get in there it's a courier surely

Just sayin :)

On 29/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, Joe Hendry wrote:

Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment



Sun, March 29, 2011

Toronto Police are probing a threat made over the telephone

against outspoken Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti by a suspected bike

courier who

allegedly vowed to “go after” the politician.

Mammoliti last week suggested that bicycle couriers should

pay licensing fees to help the city raise cash.

The councillor for York West (Ward 7) said he’s taking the

threat seriously and will be listening to the advice of police. He

said it was

his worst threat in 20-years of public service.

City Hall insiders said two threats were made against

Mammoliti by a man last Saturday. It is suspected the threats were

made by a

courier angry over Mammoliti’s call for an extra fee.

He said some of his colleagues want increased security at

City Hall due to major funding shortfall issues that have to be

dealt with by

councillors that can include cutting city jobs and programs.

The threat comes as a confidential report on security at

City Hall and its civic centres is presented to a city’s government


committee on Tuesday.

“I think things may get worst because we have to find ways

to cut almost $800 million from the budget,” Mammoliti said. “There

will be

some tough decisions facing this administration in the next year.”

Committee chairman Paul Ainslie said the confidential report

being presented on Tuesday looks at possible security refinements at

City Hall.

“We will be reviewing security and looking at ways of making

enhancements,” Ainslie said. “We already have provisions in place

for the

second floor of City Hall and our civic centres.”

He said councillors have panic buttons hidden in their desks

which they can push to obtain help from security. Guests also have

to sign a

visitor’s book before they can see a councillor.

Councillor Doug Holyday said he would like to see security

tweaked without residents being affected.

“I am in favour of making sure that people can’t come in and

just wander around,” Holyday said. “There has been more protests and


with this administration.”

Councillor Michael Thompson said he wants added security,

but added: “What we don’t want is Fortress

City Hall.”

He said there are some people who are upset with current

policies and may want to take it out on council members.


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