Re: [messengers] Car Courier arrested re: Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment

Date: 30 Mar 2011 22:59:10 +0200
From: Michael Dodd <mikeydodds@xxxxxxxxx>


That supports my theory, they need to raise revenue by cracking down on
incompetent or aggressive motorists.

Makes sense since they are the ones controlling the machinery.

Oh and look at that, they are already registered and have license plates.



On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Nicholas Kovats <nkovats@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> National Post has confirmed that a Car Couier has been arrested.
>
> Bicycle messengers PR needs to compose a letter to the NP editor on ...once
> again false assumptions.
>
>
> http://www.nationalpost.com/m/search/arrested+after+threatening+call/4525428/story.html?q=Mammoliti
>
> Elspeth Lodge, National Post
> Wednesday, Mar. 30, 2011
>
> A Toronto man has been arrested and charged after a city councillor
> received
> menacing threats on Saturday.
>
> The call came after Giorgio Mammoliti of Ward 7 suggested that bicycle
> couriers pay licensing fees to help raise money for the city.
>
> The early suspicion was that the caller was a bicycle courier, but the man
> who allegedly said he would "go after" Mr. Mammoliti was a car courier.
>
> Police say they arrested the suspect, 50-year-old Ian Bruce Thornton, after
> he turned himself in.
>
> Mr. Mammoliti could not comment on the situation, due to the ongoing
> investigation, but he did confirm that he had been the subject of a
> threatening call. The accused will appear in court on May 5.
>
> Councillor Mammoliti said he believes a bicycle tax makes sense as a way to
> make money from those who use roads and sidewalks aggressively.
>
> elodge@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2011-03-29, at 6:28 PM, Nicholas Kovats <nkovats@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Couriers. Wake up! This is classic directed mis-information reported
> by one news outlet unsubstaniated by any other source.
>
> Peace.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2011-03-29, at 12:21 PM, Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Well done Shawn.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/29/11, Shawn bega Blumenfeld <shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> From: Shawn bega Blumenfeld <shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment
>
> To: "messengers" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 10:21 AM
>
>
> they may have specific reason that theyre not releasing to believe it
>
> is in fact a courier.
>
>
> if i were the tomba or whatever is current, i would stay away from the
>
> argument " you dont know its a courier, dont come down on us" because
>
> it might be one or turn out to be one.
>
>
> i would take the stance that the common hard working career toronto
>
> bike messengers have nothing to do with these threats, and hope the
>
> culprit is caught whether or not a messenger. further, i would suggest
>
> to  individual messengers that they should be courteous when dealing
>
> with new security measures that are sure to be put in place, and work
>
> as a group to lesson them instead of as loud individuals in the heat
>
> of the rush being asked to use a loading dock for the first time.
>
> charge waiting time to the client.
>
>
> seperately and at the same time i would say publically that "we hope
>
> the political process will allow comment from career messengers before
>
> any licensing or plate law is implemented, and that any such
>
> inplementation will be done for the benefit of the industry, the
>
> messengers, and people of toronto, not as a gut reaction to a
>
> dwindling budget". when arguing specifically against plate laws, i
>
> would argue the responsibility of the courier companies, the low
>
> numbers of bikers meaning very little income if any vs the redtape
>
> necessary to impletment it, the transient nature of the work force,
>
> and that  hard working career bike messengers stay on the streets by
>
> riding safely.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Shawn "bega" Blumenfeld
>
> web: http://www.dcbikeracing.com
>
> email: shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx
>
> mobile phone/text: (+1) 202-345-1177
>
> skype: shawn.bega
>
> --
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Joe Hendry <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Exactly! Nobody takes Mammoliti seriously about anything.
>
>
> But why suspect a courier? A couple days before he proposed turning a
> wonderful family community on the island into a red light area filled with
> brothels.
>
>
> Add this to the list of "suspected couriers."
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 3/29/11, marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx <marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> From: marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx <marmaxcourier@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment
>
> To: "Simon McKenzie" <simonmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx, "Joe Hendry" <messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Cc: "Messenger list" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Date: Tuesday, March 29, 2011, 9:11 AM
>
>
>
> This is very distressing. I'm skeptical that a "bike courier" threatened
> him
> at all. Political leverage?
>
> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Simon McKenzie <simonmck@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Sender: messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx
>
> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:50:47
>
> To: Joe Hendry<messvilleto@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Cc: Messenger list<messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Subject: Re: [messengers] Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment
>
>
> If anyone can get in there it's a courier surely
>
> Just sayin :)
>
>
>
> On 29/03/2011, at 10:14 PM, Joe Hendry wrote:
>
>
>
> Mammoliti threatened after courier fee comment
>
>
>
>
> By TOM GODFREY
>
>
>
>
> Toronto
>
> Sun, March 29, 2011
>
>
>
>
> Toronto Police are probing a threat made over the telephone
>
> against outspoken Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti by a suspected bike
>
> courier who
>
> allegedly vowed to “go after” the politician.
>
>
>
>
> Mammoliti last week suggested that bicycle couriers should
>
> pay licensing fees to help the city raise cash.
>
>
>
>
> The councillor for York West (Ward 7) said he’s taking the
>
> threat seriously and will be listening to the advice of police. He
>
> said it was
>
> his worst threat in 20-years of public service.
>
>
>
>
> City Hall insiders said two threats were made against
>
> Mammoliti by a man last Saturday. It is suspected the threats were
>
> made by a
>
> courier angry over Mammoliti’s call for an extra fee.
>
>
>
>
> He said some of his colleagues want increased security at
>
> City Hall due to major funding shortfall issues that have to be
>
> dealt with by
>
> councillors that can include cutting city jobs and programs.
>
>
>
>
> The threat comes as a confidential report on security at
>
> City Hall and its civic centres is presented to a city’s government
>
> management
>
> committee on Tuesday.
>
>
>
>
> “I think things may get worst because we have to find ways
>
> to cut almost $800 million from the budget,” Mammoliti said. “There
>
> will be
>
> some tough decisions facing this administration in the next year.”
>
>
>
>
> Committee chairman Paul Ainslie said the confidential report
>
> being presented on Tuesday looks at possible security refinements at
>
> City Hall.
>
>
>
>
> “We will be reviewing security and looking at ways of making
>
> enhancements,” Ainslie said. “We already have provisions in place
>
> for the
>
> second floor of City Hall and our civic centres.”
>
>
>
>
> He said councillors have panic buttons hidden in their desks
>
> which they can push to obtain help from security. Guests also have
>
> to sign a
>
> visitor’s book before they can see a councillor.
>
>
>
>
> Councillor Doug Holyday said he would like to see security
>
> tweaked without residents being affected.
>
>
>
>
> “I am in favour of making sure that people can’t come in and
>
> just wander around,” Holyday said. “There has been more protests and
>
> activists
>
> with this administration.”
>
>
>
>
> Councillor Michael Thompson said he wants added security,
>
> but added: “What we don’t want is Fortress
>
> City Hall.”
>
>
>
>
> He said there are some people who are upset with current
>
> policies and may want to take it out on council members.
>
>
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