Re: [messengers] It's not you. It's me.

Date: 6 Jun 2012 04:06:53 +0200
From: Mark Hayward <hayward_mw71@xxxxxxxx>


One more time...

--- On Tue, 6/5/12, michael dailey <dailey28philly@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: michael dailey <dailey28philly@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [messengers] It's not you. It's me.
To: "Jesse Lee McGarr" <jesselee-mtl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Messenger Mailing List" <messengers@xxxxxxxxx>
Received: Tuesday, June 5, 2012, 9:29 PM


See you there. Buddy.
On Jun 5, 2012 9:25 PM, "Jesse Lee McGarr" <jesselee-mtl@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
> real talk
>
> > Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 20:56:28 -0400
> > From: fixieman@xxxxxxxxx
> > To: messengers@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [messengers] It's not you. It's me.
> >
> > Oh yeah, I"m supposed to meet Mo for a beer at 2nd chance, before CMWC
> > So I will darken your bar stools soon enough
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:55 PM, C Q <fixieman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Ha ha
> > > see you there
> > > I wonder how many, but we've done quite a few together
> > > Zurich, Guatemala, Warriors, were each hugely epic in their own way
> > > NYC, a few times, Always a blast
> > > a few others too I'm sure, Dublin? Philly?, etc...
> > >
> > > See ya soon amigo
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Yogi @ SYDBMA <yogi@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Yep the first sentence is sooo true.
> > >>
> > >> ---
> > >> Actually, that's bullshit cause it's you too.  And you've changed too.
> > >>
> > >> We were a community.  Now we are a scene.
> > >> ---
> > >>
> > >> Great read.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks
> > >> Yogi
> > >> Sydney
> > >> F-Ex-Messenger
> > >> since 1989 I first got on the road, 10 of those was full time in one
> go.
> > >> Another 3 of part time. And 10 in support.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> messengers-bounces@xxxxxxxxx]
> > >> On
> > >> Behalf Of Joshua Weitzner
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 June 2012 9:12 AM
> > >> To: Messenger list
> > >> Subject: [messengers] It's not you. It's me.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Actually, that's bullshit cause it's you too.  And you've changed too.
> > >>
> > >> We were a community.  Now we are a scene.
> > >>
> > >> It's not an improvement.  It's not a declination.  It's just
> different.
> > >>
> > >> We were zines and list servs and talking once a year - in person.
>  Now we
> > >> are blogs and glossy magazines and skype and sponsorships and private
> > >> forums
> > >> and movies and reality tv.
> > >>
> > >> ***
> > >>
> > >> I delivered my first package when Bill Clinton was still the American
> > >> president.  I had an email account, but received more letters than
> > >> emails.
> > >>
> > >> It took hours and sometimes days to download and look at porn on the
> > >> web.
> > >>
> > >> The fax machine was old hat, but the electronic signature was still
> > >> years away.
> > >>
> > >> I had coworkers and friends prescribed CIPRO by federal doctors
> > >> because they were in the Hart office building when the Anthrax scare
> > >> went off in Washington DC.
> > >>
> > >> I had done an alleycat or two, drank a few beers at The Asylum, and
> > >> hung out in Farragut Sq.  But the world of Bike Messengers was hardly
> > >> my life.
> > >>
> > >> And then the summer of 2002 ended and two events changed that.
> > >>
> > >> The first was The Warriors alleycat, which is the stuff of legend, but
> > >> sort of besides the point for this email.
> > >>
> > >> The other, the following weekend, was the 10th annual CMWC in
> > >> Copenhagen, Denmark.
> > >>
> > >> I drank, broke Denmark's fairly liberal drug laws, got it on, raced
> > >> (poorly), climbed the walls of Kongens Garde to play soccer with
> > >> strange girls at three am on a Tuesday,  had breakfast at city hall,
> > >> and avoided sleep for a week.
> > >>
> > >> Of the literal hundreds of people I met that weekend, and the
> > >> following weekend at a post-event in Hamburg, Germany, less than 50
> > >> are still active couriers.
> > >>
> > >> Many haven't been to an international messenger event since.
> > >>
> > >> A lot are married (myself included).
> > >> Have kids(not yet).
> > >> "Real" careers(nope).
> > >>
> > >> Some are dead. Taken by the road, addiction, their own hands, cancer,
> > >> other disease.
> > >> (RIP Nestor, Michelle, Melissa, Kristine, Nate, Marc, Jon, Pokey,
> > >> Page, Suss, etc)
> > >>
> > >> In the 10 years since Copenhagen, I've been to 6 CMWCs, 6 NACCCs, 3
> > >> ECMC (including the one I co-hosted in Brooklyn), and countless
> > >> Alleycats and international events.
> > >>
> > >> I've lost teeth, gotten stitches, pins, casts, physical therapy, been
> > >> chased by the police (in several countries), arm wrestled skinheads,
> > >> brawled with Nazis, broken into national monuments, sleeping berths,
> > >> and friends apartments, and been part of countless other adventures.
> > >>
> > >> And now I'm saying goodbye.  Not to the job, but to scene.
> > >>
> > >> I still love you.  You can still sleep on my floor (although I'd
> > >> prefer not to set up your friend I've never met, and my dog may or may
> > >> not try to eat you).
> > >> I'll still visit you, but probably not race your alleycat or
> > >> championship.
> > >>
> > >> If you are one of my friends, and you know who you are, you've likely
> > >> also been on the streets for 10 years or more, you're probably in your
> > >> 30s, your 40s, and in some cases your 50s.  You've lost friends,
> > >> family, blood, sweat, and yes, tears in your years.
> > >>
> > >> Now, I'm asking you to come to Chicago and party with me one last
> > >> time.  I've seen many previous generations of messengers fade away
> > >> without saying goodbye.
> > >>
> > >> That's not my style.
> > >>
> > >> Chances are you've already written it off and decided against going.
> > >> You've possibly mocked the kids at the bar that are going.
> > >>
> > >> That's fine.  I don't want to hang out with them either.
> > >>
> > >> Let the shit talking commence!
> > >>
> > >> I'll see you in Chicago for eine kleine absakker (possibly for the
> > >> last time) or I won't.
> > >>
> > >> As Luk has said to me, at least a half dozen times, "It's my last
> one!"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Joshua Seth Weitzner
> > >> Samurai Messenger Service, LLC
> > >>
> > >> www.samuraimessenger.com
> > >>
> > >> follow us on twitter @SamuraiMess
> > >>
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