Re: [messengers] cmc list of mistaks

Date: 21 May 2013 20:47:03 +0200
From: Diana Stoen <d_stoen@xxxxxxxxx>

I am saving this thread for all time. 

Diana Stoen on the go!

On May 21, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Lane Dell <grubeegroova@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Nice one bega. Cheers
> On May 20, 2013 2:50 AM, "Kai" <kek76@xxxxxx> wrote:
>> Nice One, bega!
>> Solution for 2.2:
>> Always have a Special "only-strom-manifest for the finals" ready.
>> He dont need to race the qualifying anymore!
>> --
>> Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Android Mobiltelefon mit GMX Mail
>> gesendet.
>> Shawn bega Blumenfeld <shawnbega@xxxxxxxxx> schrieb:
>> cmc list of mistakes
>> hello messenger email list. as promised, and longer in the making than
>> i had anticipated. having parsed many an email from past organizers
>> and racers, gone back and read old archives and blogs and webpages,
>> looked at old results and manifests and compared them to the cmc
>> handbooks and rules, re-read my own journals and studied my own
>> memories. some are general some are specific. all are derived from
>> actual mistakes we have made over the years, perhaps tweaked in their
>> telling for better understanding of the mistake instead of given in
>> its historic actuality. some are applicable to all cmc's. some only in
>> specific situations. some imply easy solutions, some are much more
>> complicated to prepare for. i'm sure i've left some out by accident or
>> lack of thinking of them. some suggestions i've left out on purpose
>> because i thought they were too specific or were covered somewhere
>> else in another way. or weren't mistakes, just someone whining. some
>> mistakes can be found rephrased in multiple entries. i've stayed away
>> from 2 major topics that i believe are a separate conversation:
>> budget, and how to get people to register and pay early.
>> any implication as to "you have to do it this specific way" or "you
>> have to have this thing at your cmc" is entirely unintentional. any
>> specifics like this are meant as examples to illustrate the mistake
>> that was made. for example: its not a mistake to allow a fixie rider
>> to use a brake in the finals and still win fixie king if your rules
>> allow it. its only a mistake if your rules don't allow it. i don't
>> wish to make any implication on which way your rule should be, or even
>> if the finals are included in fixie king, or even if you have a fixie
>> king, or if you have a fixie king that i could win on the road bike if
>> you'd just let me into the skid competition.
>> good luck future cmc organizers. may the mistakes of your grandparents
>> not be yours. i'm sure you all can come up with plenty of new mistakes
>> to complicate the championships to come. i hope you all will make
>> efforts to pass on the knowledge to your grandkids as well, so when im
>> really really old, cmc's will still be around and as fun and new and
>> fantastic as ever.
>> maybe this will even make the guide book at if said
>> webpage is ever updated. feel free to edit first, i says to no one in
>> particular.
>> - bega
>> 1. What gender are you? (#1 solution: ask people what gender they are.)
>> 1.1. Gender is not on the original registration form.
>> 1.2. Gender isn’t manually checked in the database at packet pick up.
>> 1.3. Gender isn’t on printed qualifying results.
>> 1.4. Gender isn’t listed on website registration page and website
>> results pages.
>> 1.5. 3rd place women doesn’t get her podium because database says she’s a
>> guy.
>> 1.6. Some guy who took 43rd gets prize for 5th place female.
>> 1.7. Several people of varying genders get into or not into finals
>> because gender is listed wrong.
>> 1.8. A team wins coed team without a female.
>> 1.9. A coed team wins female team.
>> 1.10. A women doesn’t get prize because race officials didn’t keep
>> track of women’s results (several occurrences at track stands
>> specifically)
>> 1.11. Women’s prizes are listed in book, but not actually acquired and
>> thus not given out.
>> 1.12. A name sounds male in your language, although it's a female name
>> in her language, so the registrar accidently changes it from female to
>> male in the database.
>> 2. How many people make the finals? (#1 solution: don’t tell
>> people in advance how many people make the finals)
>> 2.1. The book gets written months in advance and the race design for
>> the finals doesn't allow that many people.
>> 2.2. A certain amount of manifests are made, but “Strom” really
>> deserves to be an extra finalist because he tried really hard but
>> there is no extra manifest for him.
>> 2.3. Similarly, 12 of the manifests get wet just before the finals
>> and there are no extras.
>> 2.4. The book says a percentage, but the race turned out
>> smaller/larger than you thought and you need to add/subtract people.
>> 2.5. The book says this many men and this many women but only so
>> many women race and you feel you need to at least eliminate the women
>> who didn’t try.
>> 2.6. A results misprint makes many people think they made the
>> finals, and many others vice versa.
>> 2.7. A successful protest bumps someone else out. The ousted rider
>> doesn’t hear, chooses not to party to prepare for the finals. Finds
>> out next day, having been robbed of a night of partying.
>> 2.8. A rider is dq’d and the replacement rider has already started
>> partying and isn’t prepared for a good race the next day.
>> 2.9. The book written months in advance says so many women and so
>> many men, but the organizers change their minds and decide so many
>> total all together but don’t communicate that well to the racers.
>> 3. When and where is the bunny hop? The track stand? The skid?
>> (#1 solution: have a single form of communication with the racers such
>> as social media, website, texts. Pick one method and post all time and
>> location changes without fault. #2 solution: assign a leader to each
>> event who doesn’t have any other concurrent responsibilities so at
>> least that event is ready even if the previous one runs late. #3
>> solution: never ever hold an event earlier than listed. #4 solution:
>> stick to your darn schedule. You’ve had over a fricken year to plan
>> this thing. Stick to your schedule!)
>> 3.1. The bunny hop is listed in one location but moved at last
>> minute. Many hoppers are waiting at old location and no one goes and
>> checks.
>> 3.2. The stand is put off because the organizers are too tired and
>> move it until tomorrow but never post when.
>> 3.3. The cargo race runs into the finals so people can’t do both.
>> 3.4. The skid and the sprints are at the same time but really far
>> away from each other.
>> 3.5. The bunny hop gets canceled because of weather, and the make up
>> is done on the fly at a random time when only a couple of people are
>> around.
>> 3.6. The stand is supposed to happen at the party but there isn’t enough
>> room.
>> 3.7. Similarly, the bar isn’t informed and doesn’t want the stand to
>> happen in the bar.
>> 3.8. The skid is in a location that isn’t long enough.
>> 3.9. The book says the awards will happen at 7pm, and the organizers
>> keep saying yeah, don’t go anywhere, but of course they don’t have
>> their stuff together for hours, and instead of say, being able to
>> shower and change, every gets sick standing around in their wet kits
>> while the temperature drops 20 degrees.
>> 3.10. The results from side events don’t get to the organizers so
>> they never get posted anywhere, and the guys running the skid aren’t
>> at the party and no one knows who won at the awards and the fixie king
>> results are compromised and the bunny hop champion doesn’t get eternal
>> historic recognition on any web site anywhere.
>> 4. Do I have to go in order? (rules mistakes) (#1 solution: print
>> rules on top of each manifest. Never have a race specific rule,
>> especially a change in rules, that’s not in writing somewhere such as
>> on the start table or the manifest or the book. Verbal rules aren’t
>> rules.)
>> 4.1. The book written months in advance lists very specific rules,
>> none of which remain by the time the race design is actually done.
>> 4.2. A person cheats accidentally, attempts to turn themselves in
>> for cheating, but is given 9th place anyway. (some have suggested that
>> this was fair given the rider’s honesty, but it was a mistake at the
>> time, not done on purpose).
>> 4.3. DFL isn’t defined, and the prize giver doesn’t know who to give
>> it to (examples: is it the last person in the finals or qualifying?
>> Last rider to complete the race or the one who bows out early and thus
>> does the worst? Or the rider who does the worst but was still riding
>> at the end?)
>> 4.4. An extra manifest is accidentally handed out to everyone and it
>> takes a really long time during the race to inform the racers how to
>> handle it. Riders getting the information earlier get a huge advantage
>> essentially putting them a manifest ahead.
>> 4.5. Rules are really complicated, not given out in advance, and the
>> race is delayed because the organizer has to explain everything to the
>> riders.
>> 4.6. Rules are changed mid race, and either early or late qualifiers
>> gain an advantage not accounted for in the results (such as splitting
>> the results into sessions or pro rating the times)
>> 4.7. Do I need to complete a manifest to exchange for a new one?
>> 4.8. The rules say you have to finish by a certain time and your
>> last manifest either counts or doesn’t count depending on if its
>> filled or is it ok if its partial, or has at least one pick up or did
>> you just get this at the exchange and then come here because you have
>> to do at least one lap around even if you don’t stop anywhere or you
>> didn’t get credit for your next to last because you didn’t turn in
>> your last, or you got dg’d from a day’s worth of turned in work
>> because you missed the deadline on your last one and why didn’t you
>> know this rule?
>> 4.9. The team competition is undefined although there is a prize for it.
>> 4.10. Teams are defined in the rules as having 5 riders, but 12 riders
>> sign up for team X and the guy says take our 5 best and you say you
>> have to define them into separate teams and then the race starts and
>> the guy from team x doesn’t get his teams in in time and never talks
>> to you again because he feels you robbed him of a championship.
>> 4.11. Fixie riders don’t know if they can use brakes in the main race
>> and still qualify for fixie king/queen.
>> 4.12. Various best rider competitions go undefined although they do
>> have championship titles on the line according to the book. (veteran,
>> fixie king/queen/ best dressed - did Hans need to wear that tux
>> during the race?, because some people thought that’s what the rule was
>> and that ken should have won it for the zut suit. Don’t laugh at this
>> – it was a declared championship title that year with fierce
>> competition.).
>> 4.13. Can non fixies participate in traditional fixie events?
>> 4.14. Who wins the bunny hop if they tie?
>> 4.15. Can I try the cargo race without a trailer or cargo bike? I’m
>> pretty sure I can carry that pitiful excuse for cargo you all got
>> there in my big ass bag.
>> 4.16. Can I start my qualifying again? Can I try twice? Three times?
>> 4.17. Can we race together? Start at the same time?
>> 5. What team am I racing for? (#1 solution – confirm team names
>> including spelling at packet pick up, sort database by team names with
>> riders to make sure that the teams conform to rules, make team assign
>> a captain at packet pick up for communication if issues arise later)
>> 5.1. The same team has 8 different spellings in the database, so the
>> members don’t get sorted together for scoring.
>> 5.2. 2 teams from different places in the world have the same team
>> name and get scored as one team.
>> 5.3. The rules specify a 4 member team, but a team has 6 listed in
>> the database. It never gets caught and the team takes 3rd best team
>> with the extra points.
>> 5.4. Someone wants to switch teams mid weekend. Do your rules allow this?
>> 5.5. Does best team include side events? Qualifying?
>> 5.6. Team competition goes undefined, or under-defined, or is so
>> complicated that no one can figure out the scoring.
>> 5.7. Oops forgot to put team on the registration form, and forgot to
>> check it at packet pick up!
>> 5.8. The rules for the team competition encourages the Australians
>> to buy lots of beer for potential team members, thus stealing all the
>> riders from all of the other teams.
>> 5.9. One gender is unintentionally weighted more than the other in a
>> coed team competition. (this can happen with a points system based on
>> # of riders in an event within gender or place overall, or 1st place
>> when one gender has less competition or all sorts of other unintended
>> mathematical ways.) (Weighting one gender more on purpose is not a
>> mistake.) Careful with your team point design so it accomplishes what
>> you want.
>> 5.10. Separate prizes for female teams? Coed teams?
>> 5.11. Is there a way to race as a single person team? Is there a way
>> to win the team competition as a single person team? Should there be?
>> Careful with your design so it accomplishes what you want.
>> 5.12. A guy joins a team but the team doesn't want him. Who informs
>> the unwanted?
>> 6. Where do I stamp this manifest? Which package do I give you?
>> (checkpoint issues) (#1 solution: for organizers: assign and teach a
>> checkpoint captain for each individual checkpoint beginning at least 2
>> weeks in advance. Empower that captain to run their specific
>> checkpoint including knowing what packages they need for giving out,
>> what they are receiving, where they are stamping, all in advance of
>> the race, and trust them to teach the day-of volunteers to work at
>> their specific checkpoint. #1 solution for checkpointers: run your
>> checkpoint the same for every racer from the beginning of the day
>> until the end even if you learn from some racer midway that you are
>> wrong.)
>> 6.1. A checkpoint doesn’t have checkpoint person. The race starts anyway.
>> 6.2. A checkpoint doesn’t have the packages they are supposed to
>> give out. The race starts anyway.
>> 6.3. Checkpoint 1 is stamping on the delivery spot not the pickup
>> spot. Instead of adapting, the next checkpoint sends racers back.
>> Checkpoint 1 changes and starts to get it right. Racers who start
>> later don’t have to perform the impromptu round trip.
>> 6.4. The rules say you must pick up in order. One checkpoint is
>> allowing pickups anytime (mistake #1, but not the important one), and
>> some racers are getting an advantage. The checkpoint learns the rules
>> and stops allowing out of turn pickups (mistake#2). Early racers who
>> lucked into or heard of mistake #1 had an advantage.
>> 6.5. The signatures are too easy and random and a racer could just
>> scribble on their own manifest without going anywhere.
>> 6.6. A one way section is not being enforced early and is being
>> enforced later. Change is necessary due to safety. Everyone who races
>> early qualifies. Results were not split into 2 heats or pro rated.
>> 6.7. The rules specify that you need a bag of some kind, but riders
>> are allowed to start without one.
>> 6.8. A certain number of riders move onto round 2 but the finish
>> table person doesn’t know the number and keeps handing out manifests.
>> 6.9. There aren’t enough packages. Riders in the middle of the race
>> don’t need to carry them giving them an advantage.
>> 6.10. A checkpoint is part of a round trip. There is confusion as to
>> how to denote the successful midway stop on the manifest, or does the
>> package go back, or a different package? Do you have to do it
>> immediately?
>> 6.11. A rush is denoted on the manifest, but the checkpoint people
>> don’t know how to tell, or there isn’t even a way to tell, from the
>> manifest whether the racer has really done it as a rush.
>> 6.12. The checkpoint people thought they were only working until 4pm. Ha!
>> 6.13. The checkpoint people don’t have sufficient protection from t