Re: [messengers] Minutes from the Open Forum

Date: 21 Aug 2013 16:13:07 +0200
From: "scooter ." <meisterfoolish@xxxxxxxxx>


I'm out of the loop with you, Joel. I'd like to see the process go back to
how it used to be.

Having said that, with no one else putting up a proposal in '04, we
benefited from the extra lead time.

Scooter

On Thursday, August 22, 2013, Joel Metz wrote:

> well then. consider myself corrected. good thing the web site with all the
> rules is kept updated.
>
> but hey, cmwc hasnt really been a possibility for me these last several
> years, so im out of the loop. personally, choosing a host city 2 years out
> sounds like a recipe for disaster to me, but im out of touch with the
> modern world of messenger events.
>
> -joel
>
> > yeah joel where you been? the process has morphed some since 2005, the
> > date on those webpages.
> >
> > while its mostly as written, the current process that has been
> > followed recently: cities bid 2 years out and one city is chosen at
> > the 2 year out open forum. that city must then present a final bid for
> > confirmation one year out. if they dont seem capable and are refused
> > by the one year out forum, an emergency situation would then have to
> > be discussed. i didnt see it in these minutes, it may have happened at
> > the first open forum or may have gotten skipped, but i know at least
> > that mexico was prepared to give a final presentation for 2014.
> >
> >  i reiterate my recommendation from last year: i believe a motion
> > should be made next time to eliminate proxy votes. they dont matter,
> > and are contrary to a consensus process.
> >
> > i reiterate my desire to see at least those specific pages at
> > messengers.org updated to reflect the current process.
> >
> > mexico mexico mexico. cant fricken wait. im running "velodrome day" at
> > which ive been told we'll be allowed to race the track with non track
> > bikes. long live the derailleur!
> >
> > --
> > Shawn "bega" Blumenfeld
> > http://www.dcbikeracing.com
> > --
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Blaize Felberbaum
> > <blaize.felberbaum@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Lausanne Open Forum took a decision as described on the IFBMA status
> >> (http://messengers.org/?page_id=126). Melbourne will have to meet the
> >> requirements for the final bid in CMWC Mexico in 2014
> >> (http://messengers.org/?page_id=124).
> >>
> >> But that up to next year Open Forum to decide.
> >>
> >> Blaize.
> >>
> >> Le 21 août 2013 à 15:20, Joel Metz a écrit :
> >>
> >>> final vote for cmwc 2 years in advance? i guess procedures have
> >>> changed...
> >>>
> >>> -joel
> >>>
> >>>> 4. CMWC 2015
> >>>> Reps of Melbourne and Paris present the final argumentation for the
> >>>> vote
> >>>> of CMWC 2015
> >>>> Proxy vote shows that both city collected the exact same votes (Under
> >>>> the
> >>>> control of a member of the council. We swiss don't joke about
> >>>> democracy!).
> >>>> Messenger  at the open forum choose a city in between the 2 in the
> >>>> race
> >>>> for 2015 (non-messengers are asked to step aside the vote). A short
> >>>> majority chooses Melbourne.
> >>>> After a few more arguments, reps from Paris choose to withdraw from
> >>>> CMWC
> >>>> 2015 bid.
> >>>> Therefore a consensus is reached and MELBOURNE IS OFFICIALLY VOTED
> >>>> HOST
> >>>> CITY FOR CMWC 2015.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> joel metz : magpie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx : http://www.blackbirdsf.org/
> >>> magpie messenger collective   :    http://magpiemessenger.com/
> >>>
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