Re: [messengers] super mess market / mall mess life / migros mess life / hyper discount mess life / hard discount soon

Date: 22 Apr 2014 20:54:15 -0000
From: FuegO <fuegal@xxxxxxxxx>

Well, that´s a fact, event change

For the rest i don t want be offensif or insult  everyone - so excuse me if
it s the case.

Cmc are greatest moment of a normal job.

And i still really proud to read real answers when i have some questions in
the morning ;)
Merci willy !

Merci messengerlist


Le mardi 22 avril 2014, Blaize Felberbaum <blaize.felberbaum@xxxxxxxxxx> a
écrit :

> 2 things Willy. Maybe 3…
> 1. To my knowledge, Cinelli never gave 1$ to any CMC, free caps doesn’t
> help organizing anything.
> 2. Insulting people (including these lazy french messengers) does no good
> to anyone nor to the discussion.
> 3. I love you as much as the rest of our beautiful community!
> blz.
> Le 22 avr. 2014 à 21:23, Willy Wonker <fetologist@xxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>>
> a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Why say 'fuck them'?  Who are you?  A bike messenger, do you think
> people care about bike messengers?  You're someone who delivers parcels on
> a bicycle.  We have somehow come to believe we are special, we are doing
> the world a favour.  We are not doing the hardest job in the world, we do
> not have the coolest job in the world.  We are delivery people doing
> trivial work.  We're too good to align our events with the corporate world
> but we'll deliver for BP and Monsanto.  We ride through red lights like it
> is our right. We cycle drunk and cause damage.  We intimidate the public
> and spit at anyone who questions us.  But we are too good for an energy
> drink who gives us free product and helps pay to organise an event we want
> to run.
> >
> >
> > Why take a dig at Nadir and Race the Place?  The event opened up a part
> of the city that was shut down.  It gave cyclists a chance to enjoy a race
> in their city, possibly meet new people and work on new ideas for the
> future.  It helped raise money for the BMEF.  It helped out brother Fish
> out with some prize money and product to continue his dream of racing
> around the world.  But because it had a corporate name in front of it you
> shit on it.  Who do you think paid for the set up?  Who helped get the
> permits from the city?  No one is forcing you to buy their drink or drink
> it when it's free.
> >
> > I would love to be able to organise the CMWC without any sponsors or
> only with sponsors that are aligned with my core values but the reality is
> that I value my friends more than that.  I don't expect people to pay 1500
> dollars to fly to Mexico and sit in my apartment and do an alleycat.  I
> want them to have a great an experience as possible in the short time they
> are here.
> > Perhaps the hat deal is not great.  Have you tried to raise money for a
> messenger event in a 3rd world city where people don't know what bike
> messengers are?  It may be nothing for them to give us a few hundred hats
> but if I can sell those hats I have a few thousand dollars.  Perhaps you
> should go and take a look at the registration page at
>  Have a look at the ticks next to peoples names and see that about 60% of
> people have not paid the pre registration.  A pre registration that I kept
> lower than most CMWCs that I can remember.  Perhaps you'll notice, Fuego, a
> tick missing next to your name.  You're too cheap to help your brothers in
> Mexico out by pre registering but too classy to let me take a sponsor's
> money without trying to guilt trip me.  You stay proudly French then, the
> French who couldn't be bothered to put an alleycat on for the Sister City
> Cat event.  An event designed by messengers to raise money from our
> communities
> > so we don't have to rely as much on corporate support for the CMWC.  The
> French who harass women on the street in their bid videos to trying to win
> the right to host the CMWC.  The French who never have more than two
> representatives at a messenger event outside of Europe.
> >
> > It's very easy to point a finger outwards but perhaps it's time to look
> at ourselves.  We complain about our lack of rights but good luck trying to
> get a group of messengers to stand up for them.  We believe we deserve
> better but wont work for it.  5% of messengers work their arses off while
> the rest sit back, free load and make shitty remarks.  Maybe if messengers
> all gave a shit we would be able to run events they way we wanted.  I'm not
> saying anything new, those who know know and the rest don't give a shit.
> >
> > So excuse me now, while I go suck some more corporate dick, so that when
> Fuego gets to Mexico he can run around naked with a pill up his arse, a
> cheap beer in one hand, a free tequila in the other with a well priced, non
> branded cycling jersey in a messenger bag he'll probably win by doing
> something as meaningless as skidding his back tyre.
> > On Tuesday, 22 April 2014 8:34 AM, nadir olivet <wooracer@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > How did this happen?
> >
> > Zero
> >
> > --- Original Message ---
> >
> > From: "Jérôme Thiriet" <jeromethiriet@xxxxxx>
> > Sent: 22 April, 2014 8:34 AM
> > To: "Luc Unternährer" <luc_beson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: messengers@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [messengers] super mess market / mall mess life / migros
> mess life / hyper discount mess life / hard discount soon
> >
> >

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